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Re: Pink Eyes discussion

Post by otherunicorn » Sun Oct 30, 2011 11:32 pm

I disagree on the spirals bit. Admittedly I've not read anything lately, but the rings are individual coils.

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Re: Pink Eyes discussion

Post by The Jack » Mon Oct 31, 2011 3:20 am

otherunicorn wrote:I disagree on the spirals bit. Admittedly I've not read anything lately, but the rings are individual coils.
Are you disagreeing on how it was said in the story, or on how I corrected it?
If it was the latter then I should say that you are just repeating what I was trying to say :3
Which means I didn't write it clearly enough. :pipshrug:
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Re: Pink Eyes discussion

Post by otherunicorn » Mon Oct 31, 2011 7:42 am

I was disagreeing with the comment. Spirals are not used in real life gauss guns unless you consider the multiple layers of wire per coil to be a sort of spiral. Visually from the outside, I would expect the coils to be encased in some sort of housing that would look like a ring. We are probably arguing about semantics!

Mind you, I learned a bit about rail guns! About it not being a gauss and a rail gun at the same time, I agree.

The boss at work made a gauss gun once, by accident. I used to work at a company that made transformers, coils etc.. Someone had a magnetized lathe bed, so he had several men hold it within a large coil, so it could be degaussed. Clearly not enough thought had been applied to the problem, because all that happened was that the coil launched the lathe bed like a projectile.
My first gauss gun I accidentally made when I was a kid, with a broken point motor from a train set. I could launch the little armature about 5 feet.

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Re: Pink Eyes discussion

Post by The Jack » Mon Oct 31, 2011 11:58 am

otherunicorn wrote:I was disagreeing with the comment. Spirals are not used in real life gauss guns unless you consider the multiple layers of wire per coil to be a sort of spiral. Visually from the outside, I would expect the coils to be encased in some sort of housing that would look like a ring. We are probably arguing about semantics!

Mind you, I learned a bit about rail guns! About it not being a gauss and a rail gun at the same time, I agree.

The boss at work made a gauss gun once, by accident. I used to work at a company that made transformers, coils etc.. Someone had a magnetized lathe bed, so he had several men hold it within a large coil, so it could be degaussed. Clearly not enough thought had been applied to the problem, because all that happened was that the coil launched the lathe bed like a projectile.
My first gauss gun I accidentally made when I was a kid, with a broken point motor from a train set. I could launch the little armature about 5 feet.

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Why can't I do awesome shit like making Gauss weaponry in my childhood?!
xD

But yeah, it would probably look like rings from the outside. But it IS coils; the magnetic force inside the coils increase with the amount of spirals in the coil, ergo it would be downright stupid to have only a single ring there.
I wish this discussion was taking place either earlier (a year ago or so) or later (I don't know how much further, but somewhere in the next two and half years), because then I'd have refreshed my physical knowledge of electricity, or specifically, induction, to give you an explanation of how this works out of the top of my head.
...
Wait, maybe I can do that....

Lets see. When you set electricity to a ring or coil, it generates a magnetic force angular to the flux-plane, which is what drives the projectile (situated inside the coils) forward. You have to pulse the electricity very rapidly, because having it on constantly will simply make the projectile hover inside the tube. First you have to turn on the first coil. Then, once the projectile passes right through the middle of it, you have to turn that one off and turn on the next one a little while further down. Rinse repeat until you have the desired amount of kinetic energy.
Eyupp, that sounds about right.

Y'know? If I don't end up in a nuclear powerplant and/or nuclear research, I might just end up working on this kind of stuff. xD
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Re: Pink Eyes discussion

Post by otherunicorn » Mon Oct 31, 2011 6:48 pm

Yup, each coil must be on ahead of the projectile, and as the projectile is accelerating , the distance between each coil either needs to be greater, or the time the coil is on needs to be shorter, and the time between each pulse less as it passes up the barrel. You'd need to use a non-ferrous barrel too, or you'd fire the barrel as well as the bullet XD.

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Re: Pink Eyes discussion

Post by The Jack » Tue Nov 01, 2011 1:42 am

otherunicorn wrote:Yup, each coil must be on ahead of the projectile, and as the projectile is accelerating , the distance between each coil either needs to be greater, or the time the coil is on needs to be shorter, and the time between each pulse less as it passes up the barrel. You'd need to use a non-ferrous barrel too, or you'd fire the barrel as well as the bullet XD.
Indeed. Or you could use a demagnetized piece of metal. I don't know how that works though, except that it supposedly does. :pipshrug:

Also, funny how a story discussion thread somehow turned into a discussion on the properties of Gauss weaponry. xD
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Re: Pink Eyes discussion

Post by mimezinga » Tue Nov 01, 2011 8:45 am

well, the chapter was only fasteditred to have it online saturday istead of tomorrow, this could explain te reason of the language problems; today i'll go check all the corrections from uSea and re-edit it, after that it should be a little better, i hope.

about the gun... it's Solaris, they put together something tha in their mind could work, in fact half oof the satellites explode on the first salvo

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Re: Pink Eyes discussion

Post by The Jack » Tue Nov 01, 2011 9:25 am

mimezinga wrote:well, the chapter was only fasteditred to have it online saturday istead of tomorrow, this could explain te reason of the language problems; today i'll go check all the corrections from uSea and re-edit it, after that it should be a little better, i hope.

about the gun... it's Solaris, they put together something tha in their mind could work, in fact half oof the satellites explode on the first salvo
I'm pretty sure Gauss weapons don't explode.
Unless you call "violently falling apart" as exploding. Those magnetic fields can be pretty hefty; any loose parts could be ripped off.
But the fastedit is probably the reason, aye =D
Might read it again after you get the new version up ^^
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Re: Pink Eyes discussion

Post by otherunicorn » Tue Nov 01, 2011 7:22 pm

If you consider each orbital platform as a weapon, there are plenty of reasons for them to explode. Their reactors/power supplies could go boom, etc..

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Re: Pink Eyes discussion

Post by The Jack » Wed Nov 02, 2011 1:41 am

otherunicorn wrote:If you consider each orbital platform as a weapon, there are plenty of reasons for them to explode. Their reactors/power supplies could go boom, etc..
Ooh, of course. That makes sense, yeah.
Damn me and my physics mind; I reduced the entire weapon to just the barrel and coils, plus the ammo xD
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